After doing some research, I discovered that the Music wiki page was wrong in saying that Music 2002 was a PC version of MTVMG2 for PS2. I looked through the webarchive and found old Jester websites, and I looked at one that still had the Music 2002 page here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20061006200951/...om/music2002ce/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20061006200951/www.jesterinteractive.com/music2002ce/)
It appears that Music 2002 is a remake of Music 2000/MTV Music Generator for the PC. Same controls, same features, similar look. There were one good and one bad differences though:
-The good difference is that it features club samples and good ones from slinky. This means it is even more suitable for Techno/Trance/House producers. It also have more samples in total than Music 2000 had.
-The bad difference is that unlike MTV Music Generator (idk if it was the same for Music 2000 the european version), Music 2002 no longer have a royalty-free license. This means that you are no longer allowed to sell or publish your songs using the samples in the program by adding the MTVMG logo on your CD pocket. You have to use your own samples. So basically it is more suitable if you only create freeware stuff like the songs on this forum.
i didnt know this even existed! it looks pretty cool. if it was available for ps2 i would def buy it. the new interface looks good and refreshing. id like to try it out, shame its only on pc!
i wonder if its available to buy anywhere?
Oh wow...
That looks great!
there are some copies avaliable on Ebay and sometimes Amazon.co.uk
Quotethere are some copies avaliable on Ebay and sometimes Amazon.co.uk
Do you (or anyone) know if it will work on an American PC?
I couldn't find any evidence that it was released here.
It was never released in North America, but I'm sure it will work because I tried an european demo of Music 2000 a few days ago and it did. You just need to be lucky and find someone on Ebay who ships to north america and have a version of Music 2002 to sell.
QuoteIt was never released in North America, but I'm sure it will work because I tried an european demo of Music 2000 a few days ago and it did. You just need to be lucky and find someone on Ebay who ships to north america and have a version of Music 2002 to sell.
Here's hoping... :)
*goes on search*
been checking it out. looks really good. id love to have it for the ps2! i can get it here in the uk for about 10 pounds. i was wondering... is it hard to use music2000 on the pc? im only used to playstation controls...
On the PC controls are really bullcrap. The shortcuts are completly different than most windows apps so getting used to them is a chore. But for those who can get used to them it's even better than the psone version
hmmm ok i might have to try out music 2002 on the pc. i imagine it would be quite refreshing..?
God!
i hope its better than the P.C. Version
of MTVMG/1
i was so discugested with the quality!
and oh where the heck would you find this at?
and has anybody heard any of the tracks produced on this ?
theres a copy of it on uk ebay right now for around 5 pounds starting price.
maybe i wouldnt say the quality of mtvmg1 is that bad... check out some of the music created on this site... angel in the stars is testiment to what can be done with mtvmg1. if you know what you are doing the results are very professional
I think it may be related to a very bad sound card or bad settings, because for me the quality in MTVMG1 PC is better than on the PS1 MTVMG1 or even the Playstation 2 MTVMG2. My only problem was the horrible controls, which is why I still use the PS1 version. Idk why but I think the Music 2002 software is pretty much the same though, just with better graphics/interface and different (and more) samples and without the royalty free license
so wow!
its not royality free, i mean they have got to mean the presets like how in Music generator 3000, like the songs they had on there like the outkast song and sean paul, i think those are the stuff you can publish or use royality free, but then again i can judge till i play it
but wow you said you think it may be because of the sound card?
because yeah , far as making beats with the PS1, i mean ive gotten far so far where ive done some major placements with some celebs, and thier label was shocked when i brought in a PS1 for Tracking to the studio!,
but far as the p.c. one......hmm i guess it just might be the soundcard i have, because on my computer When
i add alot of Instruments to the song it starts to have this irratating fee back
like so,
and i just wanted to show a example
heres one of the Demo songs from mtvmg that comes with it
It has a Reverb effect on it and everthing, but its just horrid! see how it has that click in it?
http://www.zshare.net/audio/71861085d6766d/ (http://www.zshare.net/audio/71861085d6766d/)
(you dont have to download it, it plays when u click it on thier site, )
what do you guys think?
note:
and also, now i see a lot of people talking about the controls for the pc version,
but cant you buy those controllers that look like playstation controllers for the P.c.
and just configure it to how simlar the P.S.1 buttons are? :blink:
Actually I don't even hear the reverb O.o. The song isnt too bad though, but yeah I remember MTVMG1 PC having better sound for the bass though and you didn't heard that clicking effect as much.
i mean what could be the cuase of somthing like this?
sorry I have no clue :(
but let me ask you this, do you think, if you buy a controller that looks like the one for the PS1, can you configure the controlls ?
I'm not sure that Music 2000 PC support joy/gamepads, but again I would need to check again to make sure. It would rule if it did because it would make my job much easier
I FINALLY GOT IT!
Here's a demo song that was in the program load/save options:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-xZ3NO-AJY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-xZ3NO-AJY)
It's pretty much similar style of music that this program is designed for. I checked the new samples and there are lot of cool ones, especially hard synths, sound effects and kickdrums. It also have all samples from Music 2000 (altouhg not from MTV Music Generator 2)
The only thing that annoys me is that sometimes the program will not let you insert notes on the first channel of any riff. It must be a bug or I must be doing something wrong.
I will mess with it later, but for now you can enjoy the first Music 2002 video ever on youtube :)
Cool, i just orderd mines, had to get it from the actual store, because nobody ships to the usa, so i had to pay full price ! man,!
but its all good,
does it look like you can still by pass the whole non publishing rule, but you can make your own riffs and sample
it gottabe a way to configure the controller options somewhere in the setttings,!
you can bypass the non publishing rule by only using your own samples (either from importing wav files, i dont know which format though, or recording from a CD).
Unfortunately you can't even change the controls and not even the language. I think for language it takes the one from your windows, so for me the entire program is in french
what the heck,
its gotta be some kinda way to ceate your own riff tho with just the sounds
i mean and still publish it
i hope mines is not i french
what kind of sound do you have and whats the best to use for most computer music softwares
because i think thats the problem why some of the quality come out bad for the pc
Well I have a Realtek AC97 audio, but it's hard to tell which sound card is really good, because for example there were many kind of Realtek AC97 audio card. Mine dates back in 2004-2005 and still plays sound fine though. But it's really hard to tell which one will work or not. Technically any cards made after that should work, but idk if they decided to remove compatibility with old programs in new cards, which would be stupid on their part
Hi, I received the 2002 program from England today and it works fine on a US PC. What seemed weird is the only riffs I get in the library are in the Slinky category. The box and manual talk about other genres also benig available. Does anyone show riffs other than the Slinky category?
Also, Has anyone messed with combining the wads from different versions?
i got it,
i dont like it
at all
I didnt messed much with it because it seems like Music 2000 PC, which I didn't like much. But it only costed $5 so it doesn't matter much. Maybe i will venture more into it in the future
Could someone upload it for us?)
nope, since it is against the forum rules to request or upload such illegal materials. I would hate to get my forum shutted down due to illegal softwares x.x
OMG lol I discovered something with Music 2002: If you load the song demos, go in the riff editor and open sample pallette. THEY ARE FAKE SONGS! I mean It's all recorded melodies not made with Music 2002! Nothing from the sample library at all. They took DJ Slinky songs, made with a different music program, recorded each needed riffs individually and loaded them in in Music 2002 to recompose the entire song there! I am unsure if this is what they tried to do but to me it seems like they tried to sell the program making people think these songs were all made WITH the program using the samples inside. The demo songs doesn't even show what the program does at all. THe program let you make better stuff than Music 3000 yes (if you don't mind the bugs and the annoying controls) but they should have at least only put songs using samples from the library and maybe a few songs with premade riffs or modified ones so it shows what you can do with the program. I heard a lot of Music 2000 users say they learned to compose songs there from the demo songs. Sure, the demo songs weren't that great compared to stuff on TIMGUL but at least you learned the basics since every riffs were created note by note INSIDE Music 2000.
Just to show you here's a video (in wmv format) showing what I mean:
http://www.mtv-music-generator.com/video/music2002.wmv
At the end of the video I go in the riff editor and play every samples from the pallette one by one
(on an unrelated note I believe when stopping playing the song at one point you can hear some reverb, ans as said in my review it was Mono like in Music 3000 x.x)
I have just got this and it crashes every 5 minutes and I don't know why.
I should be expecting this in a few days. I bid on ebay for it and won, so is there anything I need to know about this program before it gets here? How's the learning curve on it?